Beth Kanter continues our bloggespondence on social bookmarking with the very well-taken point that a prettier del.icio.us (my summary of Jots may actually be worth something if it makes social bookmarking useful to a wider audience, though as she notes herself the biggest challenge in evangelizing deli.icio.us is that its bookmark collections thin out very quickly once you get beyond core geek interests like Linux or blogging. Beth’s approach is to provide people with a
“del.icio.us cheat sheet” — please, Beth, share it with the world! — but I wonder whether the geekocracy could help in another way: by making an extra special effort to tag non-geeky topics. If every del.icio.us user were to make an effort to bookmark 10 resources on a non-geeky subject of personal interest– and not with some general tag like “politics” or “books”, but something specific like “culturejamming” or “socialsecurity” — it would rapidly expand the utility of del.icio.us for non-geeks, and help atttract others to the tool.
Beth had a couple of other questions for me:
- What’s your take on “site-independent taggregation” services arena? As of yesterday, when Technorati launched its beta makeover, things are looking up. It’s now possible to pull an RSS feed that aggregates categorized posts from different blogs, by using the Technorati tag page. But aggregating bookmark tags is still a tag-by-tag, site-by-site job. While I know there are those who see aggregation as “reblogging” — i.e. free riding on someone else’s hard work — I think that there’s an important role for topical aggregators right now (at least until we get the social bookmarking equivalent of Technorati’s RSS feed for blog tags). By setting up a page that aggregates tags from multiple bookmarking sites to capture the full range of bookmarking for a given topic or set of tags, you can create a page that offers real value for people tracking that topic. That’s what I did with the very modest OD 2005 page of deliberation links.
- You described JOTS urls-to-tags ratio as impressive (2:1). Why is it impressive? How does it compare to del.icio.us? Actually I didn’t describe it as impressive (it isn’t). I just thought it was a neat stat to display.
A prettier del.icio.us may be just what’s on the way. Joshua Porter reports that Joshua Schacter is now focusing on interface improvements – among them, a new feature that offers suggested tags based on tags you’ve already used.
A prettier del.icio.us may be just what’s on the way. Joshua Porter reports that Joshua Schacter is now focusing on interface improvements – among them, a new feature that offers suggested tags based on tags you’ve already used.
I don’t know, I wouldn’t necessarily call it focusing on interface design — seems like it is adding functionality to user-interface.
Anyway, I just put up my cheat sheet/cliff notes to the new version and replied to your great idea in the post above!
I don’t know, I wouldn’t necessarily call it focusing on interface design — seems like it is adding functionality to user-interface.
Anyway, I just put up my cheat sheet/cliff notes to the new version and replied to your great idea in the post above!
I made a post on my blog about a tool called Gataga, where
you can subscribe to one tag that combines many social
bookmarking tools. I suppose you could already do this with
the various RSS mixing tools on the web…but Gataga is
certainly handy.
http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2005/06/14/gataga-meta-tag-search/
I made a post on my blog about a tool called Gataga, where
you can subscribe to one tag that combines many social
bookmarking tools. I suppose you could already do this with
the various RSS mixing tools on the web…but Gataga is
certainly handy.
http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2005/06/14/gataga-meta-tag-search/
I just wanted to say that I am enjoying your blog and your bloggespondence with Beth about social bookmarking. It will be very interesting where all of this ends up. I like your idea of trying to broaden the scope of del.icio.us by tagging broader topics. However, I am not sure that is the answer. While del.icio.us is ideal for tech savy people, it is not that user friendly for newbiews. We love tagging for both personal and social bookmarking and tried to come up with a much simpler user interface on blinklist to open up the concept to new users.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the UI, and in particular on dividing feeds into three channels and using the gmail like personalization features (starring of links and tags). Happy 4th of July weekend! Mike
I just wanted to say that I am enjoying your blog and your bloggespondence with Beth about social bookmarking. It will be very interesting where all of this ends up. I like your idea of trying to broaden the scope of del.icio.us by tagging broader topics. However, I am not sure that is the answer. While del.icio.us is ideal for tech savy people, it is not that user friendly for newbiews. We love tagging for both personal and social bookmarking and tried to come up with a much simpler user interface on blinklist to open up the concept to new users.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the UI, and in particular on dividing feeds into three channels and using the gmail like personalization features (starring of links and tags). Happy 4th of July weekend! Mike